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[新番捏他]戰神：諸神黃昏 劇情流出 [167篇回應]
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https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1E84y1i7Se/
1.第一場boss戰其實是弗雷雅
2.芬里爾死了
3.奧丁跟索爾會來家裡作客，然後索爾跟奎爺開幹
4.索爾拿到自己想要的東西就跑了(跟上週洩露影片一樣)
而索爾跟奎爺打的目的就只是讓奧丁可以跟洛基聊天
5.提爾在矮人國，在這段洛基會離開
6.弗雷雅 battle again，但之後因為某些原因會合作
7.在這段擊殺某個龍boss後，弗雷雅從詛咒中解放，後續也原諒奎爺了
8.戰神4中段有人吹響號角，那就是本作奎爺吹得
9.索爾battle Again，然後這邊索爾槌子會爆掉
10.新武器為 一隻矛
11.兒子跟地獄歸來的芬里爾重逢
12.諸神黃昏開始，由奧丁方-阿薩神族大戰奎爺父子+蘇爾特爾還有一坨拉骨的人
他們說跟復聯4 87%像
13.奧丁要索爾在跟奎爺幹一場，索爾不要，奧丁就把索爾秒了
14.最終boss為奧丁，最後一戰為三打一，而戰神4結局壁畫上的那個人其實不是奎爺
15.阿思嘉德炸了
16.弗雷雅會變成第三任奎女郎，兒子則是踏上另一個旅途
[新番捏他]鏈鋸人 第二部 第109話 [90篇回應]
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https://shonenjumpplus.com/episode/316190246926297395
[新番捏他]神呪のネクタール 69 [21篇回應]
評分：1, 年：1, 月：1, 週：1, 日：1, [+1 / -1] 最後更新：2023-01-13 11:57:39
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本文なし
[新番捏他]Fairy Tail 百年任務篇 119 [30篇回應]
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大迷宮之戰結束之後，大家帶著負傷在身的委託人以及月神龍先前往噬龍魔導士公會本部休養，
順便討論接下來到底大家該何去何從，以及未知勢力鍊金術士公會的議題。

然後，按照妖尾長期以來的慣例，大家應該知道大戰過後就是什麼內容了吧！
沒錯，就是泡湯沙必死！所以這回只有扉頁還能看的到角色穿衣服！
好耶ヽ(✿ﾟ▽ﾟ)ノ
[新番捏他]冒険者になりたいと都に出て行った娘がＳランクになってた アニメ化 [144篇回應]
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https://twitter.com/comicearthstar/status/1587368861413801984
[新番捏他]機動戰士海盜鋼彈 新作 [7篇回應]
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機動戦士クロスボーンクロスボーン・ガンダム　
LOVE＆PIECE
http://blog.studio-himitsukichi.com/?eid=359

我隔了好幾天才看到這個消息 有點lag
[新番捏他]東京復仇者276 [17篇回應]
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結果真的被我猜中，換micky本人回去了
而且他的時間點能回到更早之前的小時候
反正故事他都聽了，只要去迴避那些事情

最後把能力還給流浪漢，就可以解除黑色衝動了吧？
[新番捏他]東京復仇者 視覺圖2+PV公開 [3篇回應]
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https://youtu.be/hfj7HaTbMSQ
2023年1月開播
[新番捏他]膽大黨 第80話 [6篇回應]
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https://ebook.tongli.com.tw/reader/FireBase2.html?bookID=c3fe5e56-8030-404f-138a-08dab593bd2b&isLogin=false&isSerial=true
[新番捏他][拷問163]姫様“拷問”の時間です [35篇回應]
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https://shonenjumpplus.com/episode/316190246922299213

台灣好像沒賣這種可以直接煮的冷凍麵?
[歡樂惡搞]無題 [32篇回應]
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[GIF]無題 [44篇回應]
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舒淇
[四格]反清復明 [285篇回應]
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無本文
[GIF]生醃 [45篇回應]
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#來泰國吃生醃中毒癲癇差點死亡
How scary is the raw seafood at roadside stalls in Thailand
Not everyone is suitable for raw seafood
我知道很多人都喜歡或是想挑戰吃🇹🇭泰國生醃
但是我自己住在泰國那麼久了
從來就沒有想嚐試的衝動
因為我真的覺得超級可怕！
尤其是在異鄉如果真的萬一怎麼了真的沒有什麼保障啊
這是一位來泰國觀光旅遊的人來到中國城買了生醃中毒到癲癇之後的整個發作和分享過程！
除了要記得買保險外
真的千萬別輕易嘗試
因為你不一定有鐵胃啊！
Cr:悉尼失蹤人口西西
本影片已獲得本人同意轉發分享
警惕大家🙏

原來吃這個還是會出事的阿
[奇幻]Terra Invicta [39篇回應]
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看到一款設定奇特的開發中遊戲Terra Invicta，他們對於現有人類政治體制有自己的看法我覺得蠻有趣的，因為還沒發售就先不管好不好玩

故事設定簡單來說結合第三類接觸和陰謀論中類似光明會的組織
和一般的打外星人作品不一樣，當外星人來臨時並沒有馬上攻擊，不知是觀察還是戰略目的他們只是停在小行星帶上採礦
而地球此時沒有統一政府或夠強力的跨國組織，台面上的國家則處於失能狀態無法應對這個局面
受不了這個狀況的各界人士政客、商人、軍人、科學家等決定加入或成立秘密組織，用不怎麼合法但更有效率的方式處理外星人問題，也就是滲透各國高層，吸取他們的物資、控制他們外交之類的來達到自己的目的

而這些秘密組織是複數的，每個團體的目的不盡相同，也造成了他們的合作與競爭，目前設定有：
抵抗者：團結人類建立防禦體系
人類第一：殺光外星人以及殺光和外星人合作的人類叛徒
僕人：外星人崇拜，希望外星人統治人類
保護國：投降主義，不可能打贏的戰爭應該馬上投降停損
學院：希望和外星人建立平等的關係甚至建立外星聯盟
主動者：在這一團亂中獲利
出走計劃：地球太危險了，應該建個方舟逃得越遠越好

每個勢力多少有自己的道理和理念，雖然不相容的團體彼此應該覺得對方很北七就是了

我想這種大亂鬥設定其實比較接近真的發現外星人時會出現的狀況，畢竟從武肺的狀況就可以看出有很多國家在危機處理上是災難等級，而現有的國際組織像是聯合國之類的完全就是個笑話
真的外星人出現除非他們初手就攻擊，不然人類不可能團結起來，放著不管第三次世界大戰就會打起來了，對外星人更省事

看樣子建立世界政府或是征服全世界真的是人類進入文明下一步的必須條件？
[奇幻]槓桿步槍的優勢？ [45篇回應]
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作為美國西部拓荒時代流行的槍枝，從現在的眼光來看有太多缺陷
拼射速快不過自動武器，拼火力管式彈倉不能用尖頭彈、構造本身也不適合高膛壓，用於霰彈但是槍機構造導致拋殼和上彈又不如泵動式
現代沒有繼續推出槓桿式武器就是最好的證明，那如果要在虛構的未來作品裡出現槓桿武器，有什麼合理的理由能夠說服觀眾槓桿武器的存在嗎？
[奇幻]無題 [10篇回應]
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為什麼河都跟死亡 輪迴 遺忘 轉世有關?

希臘里的卡戎船夫滑過一個喝下去會遺忘一切的河
道教里的在地獄服完刑的靈魂 準備投胎去來世 也會過奈河橋 也跟河有關 河還是孟婆的湯的原料
日本也有死人會走過三途川的說法 這種習俗 想法怎麼出來的?
[奇幻]無題 [27篇回應]
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畫古人類星界軍
發現一個有趣的感想

星界軍鎧甲從科幻作品士兵樣板發展
然後刻意設計平庸化
整體設計是讓人一眼看出
「不特別強」
「可犧牲」
「數量很多」
的調調
[奇幻]異形裡面的工程師種族 [29篇回應]
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這個種族在劇中好像沒說出他們到底有甚麼目的性
除了開場喝黑水,睡醒被口爆的,跟最後大衛開船大屠殺
完全不知道要幹嘛 還是我漏了甚麼嗎?
[奇幻]有講求軍隊奇幻中世紀作品 一般單位槍兵還是比劍兵強吧 [29篇回應]
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拿劍的都是少數的 當然相對主角級待遇
量產的槍兵不管對軍隊或是打大型怪物都很方便
甚至你說研發穿刺都比什麼劍氣實際
打怪物成串燒的量產軍隊恐怕也沒比槍兵厲害的
[奇幻]秘密基地 [27篇回應]
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很多作品都會有的，地點千奇百怪
海底，火山，地底，山洞，空中等等，大家心目中那種最好？（或最有趣）
[奇幻]カニ化した昆虫 [14篇回應]
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https://twitter.com/kemyth111/status/1563869465778933760
[奇幻]單一作用世界 [90篇回應]
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科幻裡面常有的場景
整個星球的目的只有採礦/農業
但這樣不會有點浪費嗎
為什麼只開發單一用途
[奇幻]高科技跟低科技的混合 [55篇回應]
評分：1, 年：1, 月：1, 週：1, 日：1, [+1 / -1] 最後更新：2023-04-09 18:39:14
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附圖是一艘朝鮮海軍的船隻，有個匿蹤外觀
但是船頭的砲是手動裝填的砲
呈現一個很有趣的不協調畫面，請問
有沒有些作品或是現實中有這樣，畫面看起來不協調的設備一起用的??
[奇幻]多神話體系同時存在 [9篇回應]
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記得聖鬥士的世界觀底下幾乎每個神話體系的神都是存在的，不知道每次希臘神發神經要毀滅世界的時候，其他神都在幹嘛
（還有那些冥界是不是共用的等等很複雜的管轄權問題）
[奇幻]前面的沉了，再貼這個 [14篇回應]
評分：0, 年：0, 月：0, 週：0, 日：0, [+1 / -1] 最後更新：2022-11-05 16:03:52
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https://aqua.komica.org/60/pixmicat.php?res=301764
雖說其他神話故事中不同勢力互相鬥爭也半斤八兩，但其他神話的主神的敵對勢力無不是巨人、兇獸或是其他的神這類的，希臘、北歐、凱爾特、埃及、兩河、中國先秦神話皆為如此
反觀西遊記、封神演義以來的中國道教、佛教為基礎的中式神怪故事卻將泛靈信仰的精靈視為敵對勢力簡直可見一班
至於清朝的聊齋反而沒有太多道教佛教的包袱，反而比較接近非洲、美洲或澳洲原住民那種動植物、非生物和死者靈魂皆為萬物有靈的尊敬態度，此外崇尚無為自然的道家思想和注重煉丹修真的道教本質上也有不少差異
這樣說感覺起來，西遊記和封神演義似乎非常敵視自然崇拜或動物崇拜(雖然還比不上亞伯拉罕一神教那樣極端)
還有值得一提的是，作為現代奇幻小說的哈利波特裡的各種奇獸幾乎沒誰有義務服從哪個勢力的，頂多就是那些巫師為了某些目的強行利用牠們而已，其中人馬族就是井河不犯的典型
我的確承認中國神怪故事是有不錯的地方，但想到中國大陸不只沒言論自由連學術自由都要綁得死死的，我想專制政權干涉的地方才有真正讓神怪故事有正常健康的發展吧
[奇幻]萬能吸附式掛架 [26篇回應]
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科幻作品裡的盔甲都有這種功能
直接貼在盔甲上就能掛住，怎麼跑都不會掉
但是要拔槍很容易就能拔起來，感覺蠻方便的，但是感覺用磁力會很麻煩（吸到一堆含金屬雜物），如果用真空吸盤之類的不知道行不行的通
[奇幻]無題 [137篇回應]
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我就問
反對黑暗森林法則的人到底有幾個是完整看完三本三體原作的？
原作針對黑暗森林法則其實是花了好幾段長篇幅的對話和事件在解釋的
作為一個社會科學的原則當然無法適用於一切現實
但一堆人很明顯就只是看了老高劇情解說或查了簡略的名詞解釋就出來耍智障
提出的反論根本都偏離原作的立基點
[奇幻]分解型傳送裝置 [27篇回應]
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大家應該都知道
把人或物分解成分子狀態
接著將設計圖傳到另一台機器
之後再重組以此完成傳送
也有人戲稱這玩意是殺人傳送器
但今天不是想談它的倫理問題
而是它的其他用途
理論上這玩意也可以當成醫療機不是嗎
把受傷或生病的人的問題找出來
再把他們打成分子再重組
但跳過病源
以此完成治療
[奇幻]無題 [28篇回應]
評分：0, 年：0, 月：0, 週：0, 日：0, [+1 / -1] 最後更新：2022-11-05 16:01:38
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以敏捷為主的攻擊造成高傷害，在畫面中要怎麼表達？
[奇幻]奇幻要素 [70篇回應]
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本版的奇幻要素好像一直偏低
想跟各位問一下有沒有什麼很有趣的神話體系啊?
不管是近代創作或著歷史上的都可以
然後拜託不要再戰槌了
我知道戰槌很酷,但是這裡的戰槌濃度真的太高了
[奇幻]克蘇魯式詮釋 [22篇回應]
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之前那個克蘇魯式詮釋金庸真的腦洞大開，
仔細想想洛氏神話本來就是以探尋背後的真相並因此世界觀崩壞為一大樂趣，
任何事物的真相都能歸咎於某種偉大且不可名狀的存在。
[奇幻]最適合戰鬥的士兵構型 [56篇回應]
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如果說人形戰鬥機器是缺乏效率的設計，
那若要製造生化士兵是否也該做成非人形才更適合戰鬥?
比方說用粗短的四肢步行、讓頭部跟軀幹盡量貼地來減少中彈機率並提高負重能力，
與此同時加長手臂、把眼睛裝在長而靈活的觸手上便於從掩體後探出射擊之類的
[奇幻]如果核輻射對生物沒有負面作用 [71篇回應]
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如題，現實生活中因為核輻射對動植物還有
整個環境的影響，使用上都需要耗費不少成本製作安全措施，假設輻射對生物沒有影響
(忽略科學上的基本原則)

人類會不會跟冷戰的幻想一樣，萬物皆核能啊??
[奇幻]島民們對於軍神帝皇安科到底甚麼想法啊？ [37篇回應]
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最近開始亂入了很多其他戰鎚相關串

雖然我也很喜歡，但感覺……有點太過了。算了……「跟某些東西比還是有節制很多就是了」

大家的看法到底是甚麼？

1很有趣的同人，在有提到這篇的或是其他同人情況下才會提
2真心覺得戰鎚福音的走向更好「畢竟身為同人有原作安定背景與單一作者操刀」
3那是啥？「我覺得真有這樣的人」
4事實證明哪怕在戰鎚40K裡有在光明的開局，這個世界終究只會是狗屎走向的命運感


大家稍微表達看法吧
[奇幻]盔甲還是緊身衣 [42篇回應]
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通常科幻片有兩種做法，穿件戰鬥服，在外面套一層動力甲（或是至少防彈甲）另一種是黑科技緊身戰鬥服，能夠塞滿一切需要的功能（如果是女角，還能賣一波視覺福利……）

大家是哪一派？
[奇幻]無題 [92篇回應]
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現在的反烏托邦作品數量實在氾濫，而作為它起源的烏托邦作品創作幾乎是0

我說的不是宗教隨便瞎掰要啥有啥的廉價天堂，而是改進或有別於現實世界不完美處的地方讓世界更好，對比就是反烏托邦故意強化現實不合理處的相反⋯⋯算是架空歷史類型嗎？

為什麼沒有多少人試圖建構一個完美的世界？是因為完美世界很無聊還是人類已經放棄了？
[奇幻]無題 [40篇回應]
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想討論一下人口成長的計算。
在寫色色的東西，因為覺得少子化時代作為瘋狂生小孩的理由實在不夠力。
真的變那樣現代社會早就崩潰製造一堆問題了吧。
所以想要弄出一個正常狀況達不太到的人口目標，跟更強大的壓力。
來作為背景，讓劇中的政權搬出各種科技手段達成人口目標。並且整個社會都大幅度扭曲已達成目的。
不過不太知道要怎麼抓數字。想問一下有沒有這方面的參考書籍可以看。

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目前的設定大概是：

初始人口十五萬，分布在一棵跟
地球差不多(氣候比地球宜居，生存資源非常充足，怎麼生都不會有餓死問題)。
的星球上的200~300個殖民地中，
殖民地會互毆跟競爭。目標人口是兩百年內兩百億。
人民主要是是被迫害的政治難民，難民群體中有各種複雜的仇恨會互殺)，
唯一的共同特徵是都是研究生命、改造生物等等的科學家。
逃難的時候勉強有攜帶一些各勢力自己的維基百科備份。
逃難用的宇宙船大致上都拆光變成初期資源，或是直接墜機降落失敗。
有大量星際時代的遺物。扣掉遺物，能夠大量複製的科技水準大概在二十世紀末的程度。

兩百億人口目標，則是某些類似哈里榭頓的傢伙想出來，為了避免降落之後直接掉回新石器時代的保險。
如果沒有達到兩百億人口，就會有個東西去跟外頭的仇家說你的仇人在這裡，大家看著辦。
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目前在意的點就是，人口成長速度是否會比想像中來的更快。
因為不太懂計算方式所以沒辦法估算。只能隨便抓個很刺激的數字。
[奇幻]無題 [134篇回應]
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對於帝皇來說，人類的定義到底是什麼?
SM不算人類，原體不算人類
就算他們有人類的情感也只是工具
這樣的話禁軍也只是高級工具?
火星機油佬也不算是人類了吧，只剩一些肉體而已
甚至帝皇自己也不能算人類了吧
帝皇是不是雙標仔?
[奇幻]踏入奇幻領域的建築 [66篇回應]
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一座建築物是要達到什麼條件和程度才會讓人覺得這是奇幻世界才會有的東西?

是像選址在喜馬拉雅山上的帝皇皇宮?
或是單純大得要命的赫倫堡?
還是不斷旋轉的小川公寓?
[奇幻]恐龍人 [21篇回應]
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小時候讀的科教書籍常看到的恐龍人，是1982年提出的空想演化理論。但那個時代仍未把傷齒龍或馳龍類視為「全身披羽的恐龍」。如果是在現代去推想恐龍人的樣貌，大概會推論出鳥人吧？
[奇幻]科幻作品中的普通兵 [17篇回應]
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雖然他們大多都充當了在背景各種大量領便當的倒楣鬼，但有時候看設定他們的裝備其實科技含量都不低,大家有哪些大頭兵的裝備其實很高科技嗎？
[奇幻]量子魔法 [25篇回應]
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很多奇幻作品都會有操作各種領域的魔法，如最常見的火魔法發射火球、治癒魔法恢復傷口之類的
那今天如果有個量子性質的魔法，那會有什麼效果?
[奇幻]人類意志合而為一 [25篇回應]
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有一種反派作惡的目的是為了讓人類全體意志(或肉體)合而為一，這麼幹的理由不外乎都是為了人類進化，消除鬥爭傷害，互相理解以達到和平

以現實來說這種腦殘的目的怎麼想都不可能解決人類的劣根性吧?相反會把問題搞得更嚴重吧
[奇幻]AI製圖 [24篇回應]
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看到有日本人把AI製圖的一大串關鍵字稱為咒文
才發現AI製圖和招喚術很像
1.要精準的描述招喚對象
2.加入藝術家的名子來幫助成品/呼喚神靈或惡魔的名子來幫助
3.用Negative Prompt來擋掉怪異的成果/用魔法陣來防禦招喚物反撲
4.用不同的模組有不同的效果/用不同的法杖有不同的效果
5.加入各種embeddings來強化對概念的連結/加入各種的施法材料來強化對招喚物的連結

所以說，AI製圖技術其實就是招喚術？
[奇幻]向斐力人的奇怪習俗（Halo） [10篇回應]
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向斐力人（部分人口稀少的殖民地可能不遵守這個習俗），以氏族

為基礎，孩子們會統一集中照顧，但是母親不會告知孩子父親是誰…… 以期他們不會依賴來自父親的裙帶關係，好自立自強

但是母親跟父親未必會在孩子前保持距離，小說裡也有向斐力人吐槽過他們其實看得出來老媽跟誰比較親近，基本猜的出來父親是誰

而且說到裙帶關係，有幾個遊戲跟小說中出現的向斐利人也靠家族（名義上的叔叔，搞不好是親爹）跟兄弟的關係快速升官

完全沒有半點用的習俗啊
[奇幻]最終兵器型機械人 [36篇回應]
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假如要設定一個用來作為最終決戰用的機器人，
基本上要加裝什麼機械結構和武器?

是要加裝超級避震器、水平儀、超多防土攝像頭?
武器好像都會配備激光砲、機槍之類的?
[奇幻]鋼彈00的奇葩劇情邏輯 [21篇回應]
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先不談種死和鐵血那樣的糞作，我只談00，其實00的問題我覺得不是外星生物ELS，而是故事發展的千瘡百孔，還有拿高大上的理念去說教

雖說草創時水島本來就想玩"鋼彈VS異星生命體"，結果被高層打槍搞到TV版兩季後劇場版才回到正軌，況且武鬥傳是"一開始"就有格鬥大會、水星魔女是"一開始"就有百合

劇中老頭計畫是預計和外星生命體接觸前該人類要統一後過幾年往太空發展後的事，雖有李瘋子亂但起碼有天上人矯正，但重點人類根本尚未統一完全就出現ELS不請自來的突發狀況，人類沒料到也沒想到加上ELS無意造成地球人傷亡，自然而然就發生雙方的誤解引發的戰爭，雖然剎那照老頭的計畫跟ELS對話把事情解決，連被ELS傷到的受害者都當上探險隊，但說穿了要求和平共存的議題結果完全是瞎貓碰上死耗子的誤打誤撞，重點是"即將到來的對話"也沒明說是什麼

請問還有哪些科幻作品會犯這樣奇葩的邏輯錯誤？明明一開始沒有這個"設定"直接出現在故事中，或沒有具體說明這"設定"是什麼，結果故事發展一段時間後就突然機械降神出現了這個"設定"，除了鋼彈00外還有這樣的科幻作品嗎？
[奇幻]自古有超人類存在的社會 [101篇回應]
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如題，假設人類從古代起強度的上下限極大，弱小如每個坐在電腦桌前的肥宅，強大的可像超人那樣力大無窮、金剛不壞
我們現有社會制度一部分是建立於人的力量相差不大，基本一把槍都能蹦掉
但如果自古以來都會有連核彈都不怕的超人存在，那樣子的社會文化會有怎樣的變化?
[奇幻]無題 [95篇回應]
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想和外星人建立共同語言
理論上他們應該猜得到下面那個表格是在表達元素吧？
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