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[綜合]無題 [29篇回應]
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島民有推薦甚麼網路小說嘛只要不要太智障就好
[綜合]無題 [18篇回應]
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如懿傳之後 延禧攻略也看完了

接下來打算看甄嬛傳 先休息一下 島民有什麼事可以問

PS.魏瓔珞的女演員古裝還好 時裝好正
[歡樂惡搞]無題 [16篇回應]
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玩完499了
進到廁所一個聖光
直接進歌
有總泥哥???的感覺

結局就是何妙禪教人泡女兒紅泡死了
超爛的結局只能給20分/100

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從一開始的氛圍到畫質都差強人意
追逐戰有點差
但是這個是他們第一次做這種
以小工作室來說是可以及格

劇情短到不行
以500塊來說十分不推薦
我不會說只要50但如果我知道內容是這樣那我最多只會花150玩 算上支持國產遊戲的話最多199

不過說真的
後面收尾就是爛
除非還有隱藏結局不過看來沒有
進去後可以不用做出浮屍也無所謂
根本沒人想看

以這類遊戲的常識
就算沒有隱藏結局也要把後日談做出來
跟返校比起來真的讓人失望


總體評價6/10分
我不會說這是爛遊戲但要我誇獎他是神作我也沒辦法
就是可以玩玩打發時間的程度
沒有必要衝第一波
等特價再買吧
[綜合]無題 [40篇回應]
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剛註冊steam id了
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1006510/discussions/
可是要按哪裡才能發文啊?
[綜合]無題 [25篇回應]
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[綜合]無題 [51篇回應]
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為什麼台灣的學生得早上六點五十就到校打掃?
連讀到大學都有必修服務(掃地)學分... 根本只是不想花錢請清潔校工吧
[四格]おいも！！ [12篇回應]
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王 の 帰 還
[綜合]無題 [18篇回應]
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島民會買這種寫真書來打手槍ㄇ？
[綜合]無題 [101篇回應]
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反擊ㄛ!! (氣
[綜合]無題 [22篇回應]
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請問是否加入該陣營？
是
否　◀
[綜合]無題 [62篇回應]
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陸軍海龍蛙兵完成期末鑑測「硬漢路」考驗後，由教官將有著尖銳鏍尖的榮譽蛙牌，直接釘入學員血肉胸膛裡。圖/國防部青年日報
[綜合]無題 [11篇回應]
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真的快崩潰　無條件基本都更快來啊
我又沒有要住什麼豪華透天厝
只要基本的下雨天不會漏水的房子就好
連這麼簡單的條件都無法幫助人民維持
逼得人民明明在天龍國卻要住快５０年屋齡的破爛鳥地方嗎
[綜合]無題 [16篇回應]
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好想回到國中時代= =

每天跟一堆未成年制服妹一起上課

奇怪 當時怎麼都沒有大爆射....
[綜合]無題 [31篇回應]
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唉 民主制到頭來也只是選出一些貪贓枉法 推託責任的廢物政客
慘的還是老百姓

好希望能有一個為國為民 鞠躬盡瘁的盛世明君來統御台灣人喔…
[綜合]無題 [57篇回應]
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做了這個
[綜合]這就是 [5篇回應]
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這邊最後整理你們的觀念邏輯混亂的地方。


第一，中國人支持還願，理當是值得欣慰的事情，

去愚弄相信你的人，這有違道德，我個人是無法原諒。

第二，這次事件的源頭，把遊戲與政治掛勾的起頭者，是赤燭本身，

但是，許多的台灣人，忽略這點，不願意去明白這點或是對台灣自己人的寬容，

反倒又扯回中國打壓台灣，這點是最可悲的，

簡單來說，我認為跟著罵中國者，就是成為赤燭操弄的棋子，

被赤燭的反中意識所操探，就像遊戲裡心甘情願相信何老師的杜爸爸，

甚至有人大肆地宣揚赤燭幫台灣人出一口氣，而完全忘了是赤燭是利用這個事件，

有心的來逆向操作政治議題，道歉出包的內部人員，查無此人，還不夠清楚嗎？

我覺得沒有意識到自己是被當成棋子的人，是最可悲，

這件事，我既沒有得利也沒有損失，但是，赤燭因此得利，

還得到許多反中人士的支持，失去了中國的銷售，卻賺進更多台灣人的買單，

你們沒有想過背後的原因嗎？

整件事可以說是赤燭的計劃通也不為過，

誰是誰非，請冷靜下來思考，不要一面笑杜爸爸迷信，

自己又成為逢中必反的信徒。

我言盡於此，你們還要執迷不悟，與我毫無瓜葛。
[男性角色]仁秀（鐵鼠之檻） [53篇回應]
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……整個不知道該說什麼

是說他的臉長得真像滑瓢
[男性角色]孔子 [64篇回應]
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因為某個自稱他後代的關係
大家都以為孔子姓孔
[男性角色]杉浦隆夫（絡新婦） [55篇回應]
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不，他有些問題一般大人也回答不出來吧？
[男性角色]京極夏彥 [17篇回應]
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那個...說好的鵼之碑呢?
[四格]無題 [9篇回應]
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[四格]無題 [18篇回應]
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[綜合]無題 [41篇回應]
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你們大家都聽好了！

慈孤觀音是真實存在的！！
慈孤觀音是真實存在的！！
慈孤觀音是真實存在的！！


我想大家應該都玩過遊戲了吧？
沒有玩過，八成也看過實況了。
不用怕被捏了吧？

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以下有捏..... 　(不喜歡請自行迴避)
[綜合]無題 [38篇回應]
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中国恐怖游戏《还愿》正式发售！万名玩家线上等着被吓

打造《返校》游戏一炮而红的中国台湾独立团队「赤烛游戏」，睽违两年最新作品《还愿》（Devotion）于今日（19）晚间 9 点，电脑 STEAM 平台正式上线。官方开启上线倒数直播，吸引上千名玩家守候，再加上多名实况主共襄盛举，可见其高人气。

《还愿》为第一人称视角的恐怖解谜游戏，剧情背景参考台湾地区文化与宗教，时间设定于前作返校后期，叙述一家三口在老公寓的日常生活。当然，游戏剧情隐藏着许多不为人知的秘密，等着玩家一层一层揭开。

赤烛游戏于脸书空間写道，「欢迎你，踏进这栋老公寓，聆听那破碎的八零年代歌谣，走入愈加诡谲的空间，随着层层解谜，挖掘埋藏在家的表象下，难以面对的不堪真相。」「只要拿出诚心，所求之事一定能达成。」惊悚的文字再度加深玩家们的期待。
[綜合]無題 [30篇回應]
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一群喜愛玩遊戲的玩家不是因還願內容討論分成2派
而是因政治梗 立場不同分成2派 互相攻擊
上頭版 爽啦
搞到焦點不是在遊戲上 而是在那幾個字上
遊戲內容現在有人在乎嗎?
這就是你們要的嗎?
[綜合]無題 [36篇回應]
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https://www.plurk.com/p/n6zhcj

所以比還願更紅不知道幾百倍的那些熱門ACG角色也會有東西借助意念得到力量實體化嗎
[綜合]本日頭版 [41篇回應]
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[綜合]無題 [10篇回應]
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幹...杜美心的配音員還真的參加過歌唱比賽
而且長的超可愛的...
[綜合]無題 [11篇回應]
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以後遇到支那人
貼這張圖就可以了

退支咒風靡全球
[綜合]無題 [12篇回應]
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召喚有在抱抱枕當老婆的島民
抱枕套一般使用期多長?

指甲有好好在修和磨
可是指甲附近的皮膚就很乾燥會輕微勾到
腳掌腳底的也是乾燥會有同樣問題
然後網上看討論 連鬍鬚磨擦多了也會加快起毛的情況?!
不能把臉貼上老婆上 也太難受了吧

要注意的東西比和女友做愛還要細心得多
抱枕島民救我
[綜合]無題 [20篇回應]
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我發現島上有一堆眼紅肥宅
他們總是瞧不起主流，看不慣自己沒接觸但卻大紅的事物（海賊王、你的名字、動朋、vtuber、佐賀殭屍、還願......）
只要發現其他人都在討論那項東西，就會憤怒的破口大罵
蠻橫的強迫別人離開自己的視線範圍
然而卻不知道自己反而才是少數wwww
[綜合]無題 [67篇回應]
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嚇到影片都刪了

國產遊戲 嘻嘻
[綜合]無題 [31篇回應]
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這段時間看到很多爬過來罵人的支那
好奇觀察了下牠們的罵人方式 發現牠們好像罵人三句離不開媽
什麼你媽死了、可憐你沒媽等等

我個人覺得問候媽媽系列的髒話中最有力的就是幹你娘/幹破你娘了
加入其他多餘的東西拿來罵人就整個變得很沒威力
我記得牠們的髒話明明也可以很千變萬化 為什麼現在只剩這套了?
是因為太多禁字根本打不出來了嗎?
[綜合]無題 [32篇回應]
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幹你娘痛風睡不著啦糙

要死啦幹幹幹幹幹幹幹
[綜合]無題 [79篇回應]
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昨天就有島民講真話了
台灣人滿腦只會拿政治作遊戲
結果還真的拿政治做彩蛋出事了
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[綜合]無題 [6篇回應]
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雙重標準
[綜合]無題 [18篇回應]
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遊戲「還願」中酸習近平是小熊維尼，旁邊還放四個字諧音「你媽白痴」，

仇中的人失去理智，因為對中國的仇恨，

認為這起事件，罵人媽媽、幫人取外號，是對的，只是開玩笑、小幽默，

是中國小雞肚腸、小題大作，

我覺得很可悲，這件事情明明錯在遊戲公司，

但卻還有人認為這件事錯不在赤燭，

我就問，

你叫什麼名字，你媽媽叫什麼名字，你有本事就留言，

我直接罵你媽媽，看你能不能接受，

如果你認為可以這樣罵人媽媽是白痴，還是正確的話，

簡直無可救藥。

仇中不代表你可以言語霸凌人家的父母，這是我的立場，請你不要嘻皮笑臉。
[綜合]無題 [109篇回應]
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工讀生還有呼吸嗎
不是說評價最準
壓倒性好評就一定是神GAME嗎
現在會不會改口說評論可操控 只能當參考
還不快找更多工讀生洗回壓倒性好評
[綜合]無題 [23篇回應]
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台灣果然還是政治狂熱
說什麼年輕人不關心政治是假的

一個小遊戲放一些觸怒支那人的梗就被捧成神作
難怪一邊喊著金剛不算中資、一邊嗆中共的館長會被當神捧wwww
[綜合]想交女朋友的粗乃丸 [9篇回應]
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島島聽我縮...
最近覺得女人好可怕

最近比較積極的想要認識女生
也認識幾位
剛開始聊天...
發現都很快的問一個問題"你平常都怎麼上班的?" "你都搭捷運喔?"

然後我都說我習慣騎車或是搭大眾運輸，比較方便

接著幾乎都被質問怎麼不買車呢...
好像沒有車就被鄙視

然後最近我下定決心想要買車了
有位女生直接跟我說她喜歡BMW，不然的話LEXUS也可以

我的預算馬3就是極限了...

有種想放棄，把錢省下來在家繼續看動漫就好的想法 QQ
[綜合]無題 [31篇回應]
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http://boards.4channel.org/v/thread/452031970/devotion-taiwan-topselling-indie-horror
4ch的回應裡面有一則
Isn't Taiwan Chinese? Why do they hate each other?
這就是現實 在別國人眼裡 台灣=中國 他們並不會知道你們的區別
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幹破你娘狗屎爛國軍咧
我爸說今天他媽機掰垃圾兵役科又打來說要教召我
每年都我
說電腦選的智障才相信咧
幹你大嬸婆的臭機掰國軍
幹
乖乖服完兵役的要去教召
各種逃兵的什麼事都沒有
狗屎爛國
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我這邊有一個大膽的猜測
絕對不是內部的員工告訴我的喔 如果有雷同純屬巧合

大家都知道還願製作團隊的上一個作品是反校吧
說的是當年台灣白色恐怖時代背景下的一個悲傷的故事 然後包裝成恐怖遊戲這樣

在那之後的下一個作品其實有提出兩個企劃
一個講的是1980~1985台灣的迷信與民間習俗 就是你看到的還願
另一個講的是1987~1990年 台灣大陸開放兩岸探親接著發生64天安門事件的歷史
悲劇(為背景下的一個小人物的故事) 我們先暫定這遊戲叫「噤聲」好了
(聽說英文名叫"Detection")

當初「噤聲」這個企劃的呼聲最高 完美呼應返校這個題材的風格
就是結合大時代下政治與歷史悲劇，以此為背景的小故事
不過想也知道這個企劃會被上面的大頭否決 太刺激中共了

但制作團隊就也是沒在怕的啦 好故事就該拿出來賣啊 大不了就不賣中國市場而已
所以當時內部就私下討論過 打算先推出還願 然後在裡面放一個小熊維尼的彩蛋
過陣子再有意無意公開這個彩蛋 不意外的等被中國打壓的時候再順勢推出「噤聲」

「返校detention」「還願devotion」「噤聲detection」三部曲打開通往世界的大門
讓赤燭以遊戲開發為手段 站上華人文化藝術的頂點
這才是這個團隊最終的目的 反正大陸也賣不了幾千套

大家都知道恐怖片、恐怖遊戲這種東西吧
真正的恐怖是能把恐怖原素結合生活中的體驗
例如大家看七夜怪譚 故事本身沒什麼 但就是恐怖在每當你看電視的時候
會想到劇中貞子走出電視的那一幕 與生活非常的貼近
而美國的恐怖片大法帥 我們華人看覺得沒什麼 就有一幕四腳倒著走比較獵奇而已
但是大法師的恐怖是基於宗教氛圍下的西方基督徒才能體會的

而「噤聲」呢？在當下中共治理下的恐懼可以說是如影隨形
這樣的作品完全體現真正的恐怖 真正的「噤聲」上的恐懼 讓人體會戲裡戲外的恐懼
這樣的作品是能成為時代的經典的 是可以傳世的
是可以讓制作團隊 讓制作人得個什麼遊戲諾貝爾獎的
文人最想要的不見得是錢 要錢當初選理組就好了啊 現在有一個機會創造出一個
可以留名歷史的作品 你是團隊成員你幹不幹？反正又不是大陸人死不了啦

現在路都鋪好了 看該團隊要不要繼續走下去了
如果說之後沒人投資 那群台獨分子要不要出來投資啊 不要只會講幹話喔
請大家好好期待赤燭的下一個作品

對了 我再強調一次 這個消息絕對不是赤燭團隊的人告訴我的喔 是我夢到的
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將心比心吧
討厭支那還是討厭台獨
直接開幹沒有問題
如果你買支那遊戲來玩
玩的很爽才發現裡面偷罵蔡英文是母豬
不管怎樣被偷婊也會不爽吧
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【心得】以一個對岸人的身份談談還願「彩蛋」
https://forum.gamer.com.tw/C.php?page=1&bsn=33763&snA=222&subbsn=0
首先，因為我的帖子可能損害了大家玩遊戲的心情，說聲「抱歉」。

進入正題，猶記得《還願》發售當天，大陸各大直播平台上「等待下載」刷屏的盛況，每個熱愛遊戲的人都很喜悅、很期待，因為繼《返校》之後，我們終於玩到了赤燭遊戲的第二款作品。大家都沒有忘記《返校》帶給我們的驚喜，給予了《還願》很大的支持……

果不其然，《還願》沒有讓我們失望，遊戲質量的過硬，使這款遊戲掀起了新的熱潮。不論是討論美心命運的悲慘，還是邪教與迷信的罪惡，人們喜愛著《還願》的一切……緊接著，就是線下活動的轉載，大家都在誇製作組「厲害」、「有用心在做遊戲」；兩百萬人的ACG社區「bilibili吧」的還願發帖量爆表，使得眾人調侃「你們不是bilibili吧，是還願吧」；lofter上的還願同人短短兩天就有了3000+，精美的繪畫和文章下面，是清一色的「哭爆」與「荷老師出來受死」，讓人心酸又忍俊不禁……

當然也有不和諧的聲音，有人質疑為什麼邪教叫「陸心會」，邪教頭叫「陸恭銘」；這個時候大家很團結地噴回去：「玩個遊戲也帶政治，不累嗎？」。因為大家相信傳播「花與愛」的赤燭不會以夾帶私貨為樂，相信除開沒完沒了的統獨嘴鬥，兩岸人民還有心平氣和討論的淨土……

一切都因ptt上的一篇分析貼而煙消雲散。
我看了帖子，內心沒什麼波動，因為罵的是習，習不能代表我，甚至不能代表大陸；可轉眼間心臟又開始抽痛，因為這代表了前面的那些猜測都是真的……習被罵我懶得管，但我若要是連自己「陸公民」的身份都開始否認，是不是太下賤？！我看到輿論在發酵，評論在反轉，玩家們紛紛倒戈；過去兩天的歡笑顯得無比滑稽，所有的期待與熱議都像夢一般不真實……那片淨土，還沒多少人登上，就淹沒在了海潮中……

我問自己的朋友，為什麼罵這麼狠，是因為政治上的不和嗎？他說：「不，我罵赤燭是因為感覺被欺騙。」誰能想到就在一天前他還轉載steam的銷量榜單給大家看，嘆息《還願》沒有賣出更多呢？

我也是《還願》的玩家，一個普通的對岸人，或者對岸的「滯納」。我覺得這個彩蛋卑鄙，因為它如此隱秘；我對這個彩蛋感到反胃，因為它不懷好意；我支持了《還願》，它卻反過來說我是邪教徒，這種背叛與欺騙的感覺讓我心碎，也讓我覺得所謂「淨土」是多麼渺茫的存在……

我不站習，因為他的當選沒有我的選票；我不站民粹，因為中東連年的戰亂為我敲響警鐘；我只想用掃帚掃掉我破碎一地的「玻璃心」，只想關閉一切社軟和論壇，只想拉著美心逃向沒有壞人的阿里山……

最後呢，我想笑笑赤燭……為什麼，要讓污臟的政治沾染自己，要讓支持你的人如此傷心？

赤燭不知道自己找到了治病的方法，我惋惜地看著那一片片鬱金香田燃燒著，在互相怨恨的火焰中化作灰燼。
此文不回復，只是單純抒發自己觀點而已。再次因為破壞遊戲體驗向大家道歉。
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有島民和我一樣嗎?
本來很討厭還願的
因為跟風廚加上工讀生各種吹捧
一點想玩的感覺都沒有
結果現在跑出一堆崩潰賤畜
反而開始想支持了
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我覺得這一切都在赤燭的預料之中

首批賣不好　叫好不叫座　才賣出十萬　

接下來就流出遊戲內容有貶低中國主席是維尼小熊的符咒

使遊戲在中國被下架封殺　來增加遊戲的討論度　

反中玩家湧入各大討論板　說是要支持台灣遊戲　相繼購買

目地成功　炒作一波　目前銷量呈倍數成長

所以我認為這一切都是赤燭在炒作政治話題

而蓄意在遊戲中放入政治敏感話題的素材

來操弄兩岸人民的情緒互相攻擊　達到熱度

製作遊戲的心思放在炒作　而非遊戲　令人感到捥惜
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有啥好道歉的？

事實證明只要對中國人民的胃口，他們還不是拿去用
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