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要怎麼跟女生聊天才不會緊張
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對一般麵店的理解是：
牛肉麵=有牛肉的湯麵
牛肉湯麵=只有牛肉湯的麵,沒有牛肉

不覺得奇怪嗎?
多了一個"湯"字,卻反而少了牛肉
這樣算不算標示不實?

是不是應該要改成：
＊有牛肉的湯麵
＊沒有牛肉的湯麵
[綜合]無題 [5篇回應]
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證嚴法師算不算尼采所說的，弱者想要有強者的爽感，所以自己分裂自己，一直對自己壞的一面施暴?
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其他的女角都沒用 卻用了這隻

原作的她好影薄
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蓬鬆鳥必須死!
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島民為什麼要整天輸贏
[女性角色]愛莉絲 [6篇回應]
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雖然知道是人造物
但總忍不住想嚼她的頭髮…一定又香又有嚼勁
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昨天有島民發文合理懷疑照燒貓賣社入票導致這次的neko%%事件
今天那位黃牛就跳出來道歉說是反串他不是故意的
明明在巴哈囂張的要死
島民直接發文問誰賣他社入票的，嚇到屁滾尿流==
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問個問題，這裡還有什麼讓老島民好留念的嗎?
整天不是戰19就是V跟政治，為什麼還要花時間在這裡F5?
[綜合]無題 [20篇回應]
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垃圾本子都是這樣半買半相送的
被印成垃圾本還被這樣推銷出去
為那些紙漿默哀
資收都不配
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作者 dragon803 (miComet最強) 看板 C_Chat
標題 [閒聊] 關於A-1P介紹 錯誤的部份更正
時間 Tue Jul 19 16:42:46 2022
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有一個叫井川一的人介紹動畫公司 講了A-1P

因為他的內容錯蠻多的 所以一個一個講

恩....其實我是覺得幾乎全錯啦 雖然他的基礎概念是對的 但內容幾乎都不對

首先關於他用製作部門分組的

這個東西是對的，但是他沒有去提不同的組製片人有誰 而單純以屬性去分類製作部門
擅長做什麼 這是錯的

其實現在A-1P因為新人又上來所以製作部門的構成會很難推測，但當年是有一個大概的
推測去分類底下大概哪些人做什麼作品

所以我現在都用當年的情況來說 橫跨到2020後應該是有變化沒錯 但前面的還可以講

首先他講第一製作部門擅長的是重打鬥的作品，他拿Fate Apocrypha來舉例

https://imgur.com/gZU0eiI

這段是錯的，FAP的製片人藤田祥雄當年應該是第四製作部門的部長 不是第一

然後他拿刀劍神域來舉例

https://imgur.com/EvaF1wQ

但實際上刀劍每一季的製片人都有變化

第一季(加藤淳 本部長) 第二季-加藤&清田穰二(清田是第二製作部門)劇場板序列跟三季
到終章則是交給金子P，他最初是藤田在的第4製作部門

如果你講刀劍直接歸類在第一很奇怪

因為刀劍的製片人一直換人，每一季在動作戲的主力班底也有變化，也不是全部都是第一
製作部門做的

直接部門去分屬性用這個講很奇怪，而且並不是第一製作部門就絕對負責動作場景多
的作品

例如七大罪 以及之前的青之驅魔師就都不是第一製作部門的人帶隊做的

所以到這邊可以確定 寫這個文案的完全不了解A-1P製片人的分工

因此才刻意直接用屬性來分類 但這完全不對

然後他講第二製作部門是萌系....可是後來做86的藤井P還有弄刀劍神域的清田P原本
都這裡的人

第四製作部門

這個

https://imgur.com/Fqyh0QT

奇幻跟青驅都是清田P帶的 他是第二製作部門的本部長 不是第四

調教咖啡廳是五十嵐守最後一次以製片人身分帶作品，他是第一

然後他講這組是奇耙我不知道是為什麼

其實不同的製片人跟班底 在A-1P CW這種製作體系 你幾乎各種各樣的作品都會碰到 不
論是賣萌的 原創 要戰鬥的 不同的製片人都會接觸不同的題材

所以一定也會有做的好跟做不好的

例如他講第三製作部門沒競爭力 因為用皇帝聖印戰記跟學戰都市來舉例

https://imgur.com/ZyWTfSX

但這組的山田賢治郎跟菊池雄一郎 除了輝夜以外 還做了戰翼的希格德莉法 視覺
監獄 七大罪

這些作品有很差嗎? 沒有吧 就算你在輝夜之前不熟悉他們 你好歹看過七大罪吧

這組絕對不是沒有實力，雖然因為作品量不少常被戲稱是養家組，工期或是製作情況不允
許會爆炸 但絕對不是製作力低落，不然七大罪跟輝夜怎麼來的

所以他拿輝夜的時候補的這段

https://imgur.com/N8QrD6N

https://imgur.com/z4BRSB2

完全就是胡扯啊 你不如直接承認你根本不懂就了 如果這個班底本身不夠強怎麼可能
接輝夜

https://imgur.com/NlD2Hbf

這也是錯的 刀劍神域每一季的製片人都不同 根本沒有誰綁架誰的問題 這季的Lycoris
Recoil製片人中柄裕二當年是第一沒錯 但是他可能接的位子更像當年做調教咖啡廳的五
十嵐守的位子

因為A-1P好幾個製片人都往下交給其他人來接棒了，所以才會有新的製片人出現，例如
86跟中柄裕二都是如此

然後這個舉例 也是錯的....

https://imgur.com/u2RMkBJ

這個是該集負責那段的作畫監督溫泉中也的風格

他在後來七章羽蛇神開大的時候也用了類似的嘗試 你拿那個當舉例是骰子公司就....完
全是在誤導啊....

當然他的結論講製片人導向的公司沒錯 但中間介紹A-1P以及那種部分區分方式幾乎全錯

部門分屬性這概念本身就是錯的 哪些人做了哪些作品也搞不清楚

啊..唉 這個叫井川一的人怎麼可以出一個內容幾乎全錯的影片來說明啊 我真的不太懂

這樣出介紹的意義在哪.....

然後也不用講什麼A-1P重返榮耀

明年搞不好又要臭回來 A-1P明年作品不少喔 還2-3個大作 我就不信做壞了不會有人生氣

總之，我很高興有人願意做動畫公司的介紹

但又有點無奈有人怎麼可以寫了幾乎全錯的介紹 他寫這個前都沒有問過的人嗎

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[綜合]無題 [89篇回應]
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政治可以分歧，但兩岸人民不應有敵意
[綜合]繳停車費順便買個冰 [30篇回應]
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.....幹蘇打冰棒竟然賣完了
[綜合]無題 [2篇回應]
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【炎上】吉田製作所「ソニーのゲーミングモニターが酷い。絶対買うな」
https://krsw.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/ghard/1657484149/

【炎上】吉田製作所「ソニーのゲーミングモニターが酷い。絶対買うな」 ★2
https://krsw.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/ghard/1657531537/

【炎上】吉田製作所「ソニーのゲーミングモニターが酷い。絶対買うな」 ★3
https://krsw.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/ghard/1657536513/

【炎上】吉田製作所「ソニーのゲーミングモニターが酷い。絶対買うな」 ★4
https://krsw.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/ghard/1657536814/

【炎上】吉田製作所「ソニーのゲーミングモニターが酷い。絶対買うな」 ★5
https://krsw.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/ghard/1657537135/

吉田製作所、モニタに反射した姿が映り込んでしまう
https://eagle.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/livejupiter/1657765841/

【悲報】吉田製作所さん、モニターに自身のイケメンが映ってしまう
https://mi.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/news4vip/1657848080/

【朗報】吉田製作所さん、モニターに自身のイケメンが映ってしまう
https://nova.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/livegalileo/1657848695/

「YouTuber吉田製作所」←こいつのイメージｗｗｗ
https://eagle.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/livejupiter/1657848864/

【朗報】吉田製作所さん、モニターに自身のイケメンが映ってしまう
https://eagle.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/livejupiter/1657990872/

【朗報】吉田製作所さん、モニターに自身のイケメンが映ってしまう
https://eagle.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/livejupiter/1657995220/

【朗報】吉田製作所さん、モニターに自身のイケメンが映ってしまう
https://eagle.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/livejupiter/1658022282/

【朗報】吉田製作所さん、モニターに自身のイケメン顔が映ってしまう
https://nova.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/livegalileo/1658043635/

【朗報】吉田製作所さん、モニターに自身のイケメン顔が映ってしまう
https://nova.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/livegalileo/1658048839/

【朗報】吉田製作所さん、モニターに自身のイケメン顔が映ってしまう
https://nova.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/livegalileo/1658064007/

【朗報】吉田製作所さん、モニターに自身のイケメン顔が映ってしまう
https://eagle.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/livejupiter/1658071719/

吉田製作所「ソニーのゲーミングヘッドセットは中華品質！」今夜動画公開へ
https://krsw.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/ghard/1657778837/

吉田製作所さん モニターに自身のイケメン顔が映ってしまう（画像あり）
https://mi.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/news4vip/1658120800/

【画像】人気YouTuber吉田製作所、うっかりモニターの反射でイケメンがバレてしまう
https://greta.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/poverty/1658023157/

吉田製作所さん モニターに自身のイケメン顔が映ってしまう（画像あり）
https://nova.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/livegalileo/1658141012/

吉田製作所さん モニターに自身のイケメン顔が映ってしまう（画像あり）
https://eagle.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/livejupiter/1658198006/

【絶対買うな】SONYの16万円「新型ゲーミングモニター」が酷すぎる【INZONE M9】
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=achQbrlLKjQ
[綜合]變涼好多 [64篇回應]
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[綜合]無題 [10篇回應]
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台女有甚麼贏支女的
[綜合]無題 [8篇回應]
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王必勝上任首支箭！口罩再放寬 今起「這三件事」可脫罩

即日起民眾騎機車、腳踏車，以及戶外從事工作者於空曠處工作，可以脫口罩。
[綜合]無題 [27篇回應]
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金庸的男主你們比較喜歡哪個?討厭哪個?

我個人是會比較喜歡郭靖一點。他是把俠之大者為國為民這句話貫徹始終的人，也是金庸主角中最接近聖人的一位。當然他不是沒有缺點。
[綜合]無題 [95篇回應]
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19真的就是很適合當甲甲的那種......

你想像一下那自以為萌成天學貓喵喵叫
刪除島民文章時偷偷淫笑的眼鏡禿頭宅男表情

尤其他還有K島土皇帝管理員的屬性

在加上他想要有人幫忙捧他的話...
本來K島的廚已經在09時代已經快被ban完了，

某天他發現自己刻意放任的尼特分靈體
會每天晚上陪他一起在他開的上車串狂貼ID給他BAN，
還會同聲大抹島民都是反管廚來射精
那些分靈體射精沒精子的精液的衛生紙團，那個味道一聞就讓他好想舔不斷喵喵叫

從此他就常常晚上開上車串叫分靈體幫他打手槍，看著尼特分靈體那陽痿的肉棒，
一邊厭惡自己身為K島管理員這樣太下流，一邊用按摩棒插著自己的屁眼高潮

之後就有意無意的看著1883和09的照片手淫，
有時候還會刻意貼那短陽具照片自演，暴露在島上給尼特分靈體看，
其他島民發現檢舉了還裝作不知道，他就會貼今天吃了什麼轉移話題然後偷偷刪著島民的文章偷偷BAN，再偷瞄著島民憤怒的反應想勃起
可惜沒辦法，會幫他打手槍的還是只有尼特分靈體
[綜合]貼裸女救綜合(特別篇) [16篇回應]
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一直有人說要貼豐乳肥臀 (大胸大屁股)
...
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比女主可愛
[綜合]無題 [1篇回應]
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草神真的是許效舜配喔？？
剛聽到聲音感覺好像阿………
一人配二角這合理嗎= =
[綜合]無題 [88篇回應]
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船的要素？
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女蘿莉控為什麼都超婆
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這兩個是怎麼從霸凌關係變成扭曲百合姬友的關係的？
[綜合]貼裸女救綜合 [40篇回應]
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今天是亞洲面孔，但其實還是俄羅斯人，不過藝名是個日本名子
(冷知識:俄羅斯人其實不討厭日本)
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最近想買農地來變更程畜牧場
但發現附近鳥不生蛋的廢田都被仲介加價
高於私下買賣行情快60%,想炒高附近的地價

不過作為一般農地
仲介開價若一分地一百三十萬
貸款買來耕作,需多久才能回本?因為我無耕作經驗

有算過若作為畜牧場,買農地變更加建設
穩定的話需要五至七年才能回本
但耕作好像還要更久
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誰的錯
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台灣抓到活化石上祖國熱門了
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清水 美妃宇宙
[男性角色]護一崎黑(虛白/斬月) [78篇回應]
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一護身邊的人基本上都不太知道他的事情吧，雖然就算知道了也大概不怎麼會接受他也是一護的事實

說起來，他也是黑崎一勇的父親呢(同時也是中出了織姬的男人
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無本文
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深夜島喜底
【 休止前ラスト 歌枠 】 回線がくるまで配信をお休みします 【 vtuber 四条ユリ 】
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErdxnRDsrKI
島喜因搬家要休一個月的阿姐

上串
https://sora.komica.org/00/pixmicat.php?res=28327849
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鬼島怎麼會熱成這樣
根本無法專心工作
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請問島民開發一款類源神遊戲是不是很困難啊?
怎麼都沒人要抄一款出來賺?
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爽哥隆乳是為了誰
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為什麼人們可以因為退休金、意識形態、性別議題等其他原因走上街頭
但是卻沒有人發起抗議房價過高的遊行活動？
我相信今天不管是藍是綠是紅是白，總會有很大一部分人不是買不起房子或正在被房貸綁架。
基數這麼大，卻沒人要跳出來要求政府將居住權還給人民，反而其他沒這麼急迫的議題都有人出來大聲不是很弔詭嗎？
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無本文
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男生大概幾歲之後就完全沒機會幹到附圖這種等級的小穴了?
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體脂肪30%
減肥好痛苦 = =
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路上看到一個komica公會的
跟他說暗號居然聽不懂
島民公會沒島民了嗎
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你無論如何都是要戴口罩的 那為什麼不從頭戴到尾？
[綜合]無題 [8篇回應]
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我覺得吧
照燒貓的信徒都是低學歷人士、或者說「怪人」吧，會對他的低端四格漫畫有共鳴的通常都也是底層低端人口。
觀察後得出他們的共同特徵：
1.取暖：
不論生活上發生什麼微小的屁事都要取暖，所謂取暖根本就是拿「自己討厭的人出氣」，比如畫漫畫嘴女同事、奧客，照燒如是；信徒亦然。

2.照燒貓偶像崇拜：
這邊要說明一下照燒被當偶像崇拜的原因。基於創作者與讀者之間，總是有一道牆隔離，而照燒不同，他則是把自己化為漫畫人物，因此與讀者的連結性十分強烈，容易被讀者崇拜。

3.常常鬧笑話：
這真的不得不提史上最爆笑的「當沖小王子事件」。照燒貓開戶沒多久就吹自己多厲害，當沖現賺7千多。然而半桶水響叮噹，被眼尖的網友發現到：剛開戶還沒滿三個月、交易未達十筆，這不叫做當沖。這件事可以說是狠狠打臉照燒貓。最好笑的事莫過於：這只是冰山一角。他與他的讀者們鬧出來的烏龍事件，糗到可以稱之為糗爺也不為過。

4.我不在意：
照燒貓與他的讀者有一個極大的共同點，「我不在意；其實超在意」，我們可以簡稱這句話叫做「自在極意功」。他們都很不在意；可是真的要講的話，會一直講一直講，講到很讓人受不了。顯露出他們其實對某些事情超級在意，但是他們事後卻可以臉不紅氣不喘地表示：我不在意。

我認為是這樣
照燒貓是個公眾人物，可受公評之事，舉手投足之間可影響太多人，也因此吸引到的都是跟他差不多等級的人。
反過來說，認識照燒貓後又離開照燒貓的人，都是等級高於他的人，畢竟認清楚這個人之後，弊大於利，懂這道理的人知道近墨者黑，所以親賢臣遠肥宅。君子之交不需要交往的便是這種邪饜之人。
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水草反應不分敵我 吃精通吃生命

萬葉哭死在廁所
早就說稻妻角色全是毒
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貼進度：
沙漏太陽春需要重新設計
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十年不上島卻知道我不在意
[綜合]島喜美少女戰士? [27篇回應]
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啊？
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